An interview with Richard Oberacker and Robert Taylor, writers of the upcoming Festival show The Sandman, about adapting the horror genre for the stage and writing "a little nightmare musical" for kids and adults alike.
NAMT: The Sandman is a true horror musical,
not something that we see a lot of. Have you always wanted to write in this
genre?
Richard Oberacker: Ever
since I was a very young child, I had two obsessions: musical theatre and
haunted houses. I think I understood that a good haunted house was
actually interactive, immersive theater. And, oddly, throughout most of
my youth, I became a bit of an entrepreneur, designing and building haunted
attractions. I guess I always wondered if my two obsessions could be
combined—but, of course, it had to be the right story. The best horror
movies are always of a singular vision and have a delicate balance of fright
and comedy. Both of those are authentic and therefore work only if they
are organically connected to the story—they arise out of the givens of the
circumstances. That means only the perfect story can give rise to the perfect
recipe. If we had not happened upon Hoffmann's work, and "Der
Sandman" in particular, we would not have attempted a so-called horror
musical.
NAMT: How did you discover the stories The Sandman is
based on? Did you immediately know you wanted to adapt them into a musical?
Robert Taylor: Saying "we happened upon Hoffmann's work" as Richard
indicated is somewhat disingenuous, in that German romanticism in general, and
the complete works of E.T.A. Hoffmann in particular, were a major area of study
for me in my years at the Universities of Bonn and Princeton. Further, every
child of the Western World knows Hoffmann's Nutcracker. Offenbach's
opera The Tales of Hoffmann actually contains elements of The Sandman
story, as does Delibes' classic ballet Coppelia. So in truth, I've known
and been fascinated by Hoffmann's sinister fairy tales (as well as those of
Edgar Allen Poe, who counted Hoffmann among his favorite writers) for most of
my life—and they seem to naturally lend themselves to musical
theatricalization. I'm not sure why that is, but I suspect it has something to
do with Hoffmann having been a brilliant musician and composer in his own
right, with chamber music, symphonies, ballets and operas to his credit, as
well as an unparalleled writer of fantasy. His fiction is filled with
music and tales of musicians. He worshiped
Mozart—the "A" in
E.T.A. Hoffmann stands for Amadeus, a name he took to honor the composer he
considered to be the greatest genius of all time. And though never a
playwright, his story-telling is inherently and brilliantly
theatrical. So, how could we resist trying our hand at adapting some of
Hoffmann's tales for the musical stage? We're certainly in good, though it must
be admitted, rather intimidating company.
NAMT: While adapting, what did you consider the most
important key to staying true or honest to Hoffman's original work?
RO: The most important
elements were two-fold. One, that the horrible or disturbing actions be
presented as truthful experiences within the world of the play. Hoffmann often
presents supernatural or nefarious happenings as perfectly plausible in the
lives and environments of his characters. And secondarily, that
Hoffmann's sense of humor and social satire be honored. We found that
when we combined both those elements, filtered through the conventions of a
musical theatre piece, we landed on a style that closely resembled the
sensibility of Tim Burton's animated works.
NAMT: Tell us about the musical style of this piece, as it
relates to the horror genre of the story.
RO & RT: The Sandman is set in Germany in the late 1830's, about
as horrific a setting for a musical as one can imagine, with the possible
exception of Germany in the late 1930's, so it gave us an opportunity to pay
homage to the great German masters—Bach, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schubert,
Schumann—while infusing the score with more nefarious and satirical
sensibilities a la Kurt Weill, and the classic German horror film techniques of
a Franz Waxman or Bernard Herrmann. I think the key to a successful horror
film, and therefore a horror musical, has to do with the creation of a unified
world which gives the viewer a very specific set of rules within which the plot
and characters will function. Many of these rules often make no logical
sense in the real world, but that is in fact the fun and the attraction of the
medium. This 'base line' set of rules and the unified vision of the world
serves as an entry point, an invitation to participate in the story. It's
a sort of seduction so that one is ready and willing to accept the dreadful and
unnatural things that will surely follow. In the score of The Sandman,
we do much the same thing. We create a very specific vocabulary which is
at once melodic—and therefore accessible—and slight cartoony, which tells the listener
the rules of this slightly odd-ball world and seduces them with a sense of play
and a fairly assured 'entertainment value.' It's showy. It has
musical theatre in its DNA. That should please the listener, invite them
to notice the German homages and enjoy in the winking acknowledgment of them,
and gain their trust and participation before the real fun begins. Then
of course, those themes and motifs begin to twist and distort. They begin
to become aggressive and dissonant. The music becomes as unnatural as the
goings on of the play. But it never loses its initial vocabulary.
NAMT: What was it like to marry the music and the text of
the play together?
RO: The text and the music
are really cut from the same cloth. It wasn't a matter of having to "marry"
them exactly because they are both born of the same off-kilter, darkly
satirical vocabulary. The language has a certain musicality built into
it. It all seemed to unify itself once we fully understood the world of The
Sandman as we interpreted Hoffmann's original.
NAMT: The Sandman, and another of your
Festival shows, Ace, features a story based around children and their
way of interpreting the world. Why does this narrative appeal to you, or is it
just coincidence?
RO & RT: Though our musical Ace has matured, and no longer
employs the theatrical conceit of a ten-year-old boy's dream adventures to deliver the narrative as it did
when it first premiered at NAMT in 2005, a child's imagination, quick to
enhance, distort, exaggerate and altogether alter reality, is something that
does hold immense theatrical appeal for us—especially when telling a fairy tale
of horror. Irrational childhood fear of ghosts, ghouls and things that
go bump in the night, is a state to which most of us gladly regress as adults
when we want to be entertained - horror films, haunted houses, cemeteries,
abandoned buildings or farms on dark moonless nights.
A child's imagination can be so much more facile than an adult's. They have the capacity to return over and over to stories and films,
willing to experience the same journey many times and even extend it through
their own playing, writing and art making. When a child experiences The
Sandman, there should be a slightly naughty
sense of getting away with something, a sense of seeing something just slightly
beyond what they suspect their parents might have thought they were going to
see (or would have even approved of their seeing). And in that experience, their imaginations are the most alive. They
fill in voids with what they want to see. They believe in the most
outrageous possibilities. They imagine what is not there. They
delight in blurring the lines between reality and fantasy.
NAMT: Have you enjoyed a particular response to your
shows from young audiences in the past?
RO: We were fortunate enough to have a first reading of The
Sandman in a beautifully restored jewel-box theater with an extraordinary
cast and full technical support—sound, lights, a few projected images and even
a Foley artist. It was presented as a benefit performance and attended by
a large audience including many young children and teens. This was a huge gift
to us because we could gauge if our gamble on creating something that would appeal
to both children and adults was successful. As it happened, the
performance was enormously successful, and children in particular ate it up. So based on that experience, I would say we're more encouraged about how
this show will be received by young people and look forward to continued
development on the piece in ways that will only strengthen their enjoyment of
it.
NAMT: As mentioned, you guys are no stranger to the
Festival. What keeps you coming back?
RT:
We just thought it would be good to let everyone know we still existed. And we hear the Festival is still a really great place to pick up chicks.
But beyond the obvious... It's the best, most organized, well-respected showcase for new works in the country. The
industry actually shows up, pays attention and has direct access to the writers
in a way that leads to real productions—and for those of us who live and work
outside of New York, that is absolutely invaluable.
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